Moments in Darkness Poll

[amberfocus]

[Poll #1179556]Hoping this works, if not ignore. 

Comments

[ravenclaw-devil.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I know that was so much less than helpful, but I can't help it...all answers intrigue me, though I love the thought of a 19 year-old Rose preggers by 9 (sorry again). You write so well that I would just love any/all of these - again, I know this is very much less than helpful, but its the best I can do, plus its 5.20 here and I need sleep desperately.

What it boils down to is your writing=made of awesome and any of these alternatives would be most excellent to read - looking forward to reading it/them!

And on that note, I'll bid my good night.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

LOL. Thanks.

[lillibetm3.livejournal.com]

You're wanting the time babiez aren't you? :/

Okay... if you really must.

How about: POTW happens, but Nine doesn't become Ten. Instead Rose's DNA is altered enough (closer to his) to make it possible for the time babiez?

Or when Nine removes the time vortex from Rose, he doesn't die, (or become Ten) but has his DNA altered by absorbing some of Rose's, which means... timebabiez.

That's all I've got. :)

LIKE!!

[othermewriter.livejournal.com]

Like this idea!! If I can't have little tot now I would love to have this scenario!

[wiggiemomsi.livejournal.com]

I vote for this scenario, too (also?) YES!!!

[sunnytyler001.livejournal.com]

Well, all the propositions seem interresting...
Why don't you ask Rosie? As the BW, she might have seen them and chosen herself her favourite...

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

Because she ain't talking. She's busy comforting Nine but not giving out opinions of her own.

[starmalachite.livejournal.com]

Please, no time babiez.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

I like your icon!

[yenly-gozal.livejournal.com]

I voted. What about PotW will still happen, but Nine won't regenerate. Instead, the Time Vortex will alter Rose's DNA so that they'll be compatible enough and the Time babies are on the way :D

I think I love Nine too much and I really want to see him become a daddy.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

*sighs* That's part of the problem, isn't it. Nine as a daddy seems very, very tempting.

[starrynights24.livejournal.com]

*scratches chin*

Too many to choose from! (not that that is necessarily a bad thing) I'll have to think about this while at work and then cast my vote when I get home. . .

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

I know. That's what my mind is saying, too.

[fiducia.livejournal.com]

I think the last one brings a lot of angst to the table and would explain why Ten and Rose didn't 'bond' immediately during series 2 (in my mind not till after Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel).

I know whatever you decide to do will be true to your muse, though, so have fun and I can't wait to read it!

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

My muse is having a nervous breakdown trying to chase every single one of those story threads. *sighs* It'll get sorted eventually.

[nattieb.livejournal.com]

Well you already know my thoughts on Nine and Rose and Timebabies. But I would love to see you do an AU with Rose and Nine- and children.

But of course everything sounds wonderful!

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

Yep, a bit emphatic, they were. *giggles*

[nina-ds.livejournal.com]

I'm really not a babyfic person, most of the time. However, a couple of things make me want to see you tackle it - first, I will say that, as a genre, Nine babyfic has been so much better than the normal run of such things (perhaps because Nine isn't as "easy" as Ten, it does some winnowing); and second, I like the way you handled the kids in "Hunger Moon".

But the way your Nine has been broody as well as brooding....you know you want to. ;-)

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

I do and I don't. I'm very confused. I know that I will do kids one day for Alt!Nine and Rose, but I'm a little interested in seeing regular Nine as a dad, too. Not just in a little oneshot either at the birth or just after, which is what most of what I've seen is. I want to see him adapting to it on a day to day basis. But it scares me to think of doing it with regular Nine. Alt!Nine I can handle no problems.

[ramblinsuze.livejournal.com]

I'm just one of those folks who is a sucker for timebabies. Well, and babies in general. ;)

And I'd hate for them to get so close here and then have Nine "die" in PotW. Ouch. OUCH.

But, follow your muse. I've loved everything you've written so far, and I'll keep on reading no matter what you decide.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

My muse has several split personalities at the moment. I'm glad you'll still read it no matter what I decide.

[amyo67.livejournal.com]

Oh. I agree with that. The one where nine doesn't regenerate, but having the vortex inside her alters Rose's DNA, making her more compatible and able to have his children. But, of cours, anyone you go with will be great I am sure. You do such a good job. Although, the one I want to see the least is the last one.
Thanks for listening.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

The last one? Is that because it would be the most painful? Because honestly it is that one that feels like it would be most true to this entire series of angst.

[beneficia.livejournal.com]

AAAAHH! So. Many. Choices.

But thinking about it, the last choice seems to *fit* the best with the series, what with the angst and all. AND! If Rose did get pregnant the first time she let Ten in, and then found out, that would lead to even more angst on her part over the fact that she and Ten are having kids, but she was never able to give Nine children. *lightbulb moment* Unless you did a timey wimey fic where Ten and Rose run into Nine and after PotW and being Bad Wolf, her DNA's quirked just enough to match Nine and Ten, and she gets to have Nine babiez even though she raises them with Ten. OR! You could even keep up the angst just as well with her being pregnant now, finding out after he regenerates, and then dealing with the woe of Nine dying thinking he couldn't have a family with her, and Ten scared that Rose doesn't love/want him any more and she won't let him raise his child... Ack! So many choices!

But the options in the poll where PotW happens would match up with the show: I think season 2 and the Tenth Doctor were all about the Doctor learning to be happy, and finally being able to be happy with Rose. Until Doomsday came along and made him a wreck and season 3 dragged the time war back up and found the perfect way to twist that knife just that bit deeper (why yes, I am still pissed about it, why do you ask?).

But then again... after reading everyone's comments, I really want to see Nine get to raise tiembabiez with Rose. And now I realize that this comment has been absolutely unhelpful.

*sigh* Whatever the muse inspires you to do, go for it. But I for one would not be opposed to seeing to timelines spin off from this. It looks like *so far* in the poll that most want Nine tiembabiez and no PotW, and the next most popular option is PotW, Ten, and tiembabiez of some sort. So maybe you can do both? Please? Pretty please with sprinkles on top?

[beneficia.livejournal.com]

And I just realized you used a Ten/Rose icon for this post. Are you trying to hint at something?

[wiggiemomsi.livejournal.com]

Ooooh, was I outvoted! It was a very hard choice, but as sorry as I am for poor, family-deprived Nine, I still can't see him as a father. Not with all that angst...although perhaps timetots would help alleviate that? I am definitely happy with the consensus; anything with NO DOOMSDAY!

Equation: +Tiembabys -Doomsday = HappyHappyHappyDance (with *smut* somewhere?)

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

Now I never said there wouldn't be a Doomsday. I said there might not be a PotW, but I never said no Doomsday. Angst. Remember? Angst! *grins*

[angelfireeast.livejournal.com]

I voted for "Nine was wrong. He and Rose can have babies with genetic manipulation. Goes AU." but "Rose is pregnant now. PotW doesn't happen." is just as good. I see nothing wrong with the AU ten!pregnant one but I do wish for poor little Nine he'd get to have the family.

Anything with angst and happy ending.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

You think there can be a happy ending with angst? Gee, I'm not sure even I can pull that off.

[inwe-amandil.livejournal.com]

Ah so many choices! Personally I want POTW to happen in some form or another *weather or not nine regenerates* just because i adore the bad wolfyness of Rose. I think I like the idea mentioned above where rose is pregnant POTW happens and ten goes all angsty about how rose feels about him and the baby now. Although really I just can't decide so I don't envy you at the moment. Still I trust you and I'm sure whatever your muse comes up with will be fabulous. :)

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

Well, the events of the game station will happen, just not in the same way. That much I do know. It's the aftermath that's giving me grief.

[momdaegmorgan.livejournal.com]

I voted for Ten's DNA being changed and him and Rose being able to have time babiez but when I read your last chapter I was thinking that it would be Rose's DNA that would change (from holding the time vortex inside of her) allowing them to have the TB's.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm not particular on whose DNA changes, as long as someone's does.

[ageless-aislynn.livejournal.com]

Zowie, what a decision! *paces while she thinks* Obviously your muse gets the final word but while she's mulling things over, here are my two cents. ;)

I've actually been wondering which direction you would go with this, especially since we're coming up so quickly to PotW. I'd think one important thing to consider is how do you feel about this series as a whole. Have you meant it to be literally canon, that this was what was actually going on between the episodes? Or is it a sort of quasi-canon, this was what could've been happening between the eps? To me, that would determine what would feel like a more satisfying direction for this series. If, in your own mind, you've kinda given canon some wiggle room, ;) then it'll work for you and the muse to add in things that didn't actually happen in the show.

Of course, depending on how long series 2 was supposed to have gone on, then you could always fit a pregnancy into show canon by saying that Rose lied at the end of "Doomsday" and she was actually the one who was pregnant, not Jackie, and she just didn't want to tell him. (Personally, I wouldn't think that Rose would've kept something like that from him but of course, you can sell me pretty much any storyline in the world and I'll happily buy it! ;) )

It's also kinda hard for me to vote for anything at all that "destroys" Nine. Ten has really grown on me, especially lately, but he really doesn't want to put me in a throw-down between him and Nine, lol! ;)

I think Nine has pretty much bribed your muse into veering off into timebabiez, lol (like I said before, I don't have anything against baby!fic, though I don't generally seek it out, either) but that could be an interesting direction to take it. I particularly like lillibetm3's suggestion about going through PotW, but instead of Nine regenerating, he or Rose is changed that last little bit enough so that they're compatible. ;)

I would definitely be interested in seeing ANY version that you ultimately decide on, of course. But I think in this series at least, there should probably be timebabiez for somebody, mainly because the Doctor and Rose both were so very disappointed that she wasn't pregnant and so it's been introduced into the series as an "issue" (if that makes sense) and so now it seems you'll need to deal with it either in a happy (they get their timebabiez!) way or sad way (Ten gets Nine's timebabiez -- which sounds like a crack!fic, huh? O_O ;) ) but to just kinda drop it after it's been brought up so strongly will probably not feel like a satisfying direction for the muse.

*looks at size of comment* Holy moly, why didn't I just write my own story, huh? o_O ;) And I still can't quite decide which one to vote for, lol! I really can see ANY of them being handled brilliantly by you, so that makes it a really tough call! ;)

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

Well, you've definitely given me a lot to think about, that's for sure. I'd say it's quasi canon, it could be happening between episodes and there is wiggle room.

Warning: Opinion-Mongering Ahead

[sisterofkarn.livejournal.com]

Hope you don't mind my running off at the mouth with some of my thoughts. :)

I like that this series has fit in so well with the canon series. You have a lot of AUs and several baby fics. I love them all, but this more canon type fic is a refreshing thing to read.

In fact, I'd been hoping for a while you'd explore their relationship in a more canon format, and have been very happy with this series as it stands. There's so much more to explore in this format as well: Mickey and Rose in Boomtown, TPOTW, Rose's reaction to him as 10 and how their relationship develops from there through series 2. These are all things I'd very much like to see you explore in this series. Heck, you could even push through the Doctor's struggle with Rose's loss and Rose's return in Series 4.

You write for these characters so well, it'd kind of be a loss to have this turn AU so suddenly.

Also, I have a real problem with Time Lord/Human hybrid babies without some kind of genetic manipulation to help it along, and even then it bugs me.

This mainly comes from the scientific background of my work - I work in a Genetics Research Lab. The likelyhood of an alien life-form evolving on another planet that is genetically compatible enough to produce viable offspring with Humans is so incredibly low it's almost ridiculous.

It's also likely that the nucleotide bases in our DNA would not be the same as an alien species, thus making any kind of inter-breeding an impossibility even with genetic manipulation. I could point to the visual graphics of Dalek DNA in Evolution of the Daleks as an example of that - the very structure of the deoxiribose mollecules that bond the base pairs into place is very different than that of Humans, and though I couldn't get a great look at it, I would bet that the nucleotides were different compounds as well.

Also a case in point, the Chameleon Arch that the Doctor uses to become Human. He says it has to re-write all of his DNA, and the process is long and painful for him, making it very unlikely that any kind of natural breeding between Time Lords and Humans would be possible.

Now don't get me wrong, I would love to ease some of the Doctor's lonliness and loss by seeing him have a family and a future again, too. I just think there's a believeable way to handle it within the bounds of the series and Science Fiction. I hope that some day he can regain much of what he lost, but that's part of the journey and the journey has to be believeable within the bounds of the character and the series.

One of the things I love about your fics so far is that you always work in some kind of scientifically viable reason that the Doctor and Rose can have children. It's always well thought out and believeable. As sweet and romantic as the idea that Rose could be pregnant now is, and as much as many might like that (yes, including me in my more whimsical moments), it just isn't believeable and it's bad science.

Of course, during TPotW Rose might have been genetically altered enough to conceive with the Doctor. Heck, they might not even know it... but then we go back into AU land and at the risk of sounding redundant, I like that this story isn't.

Just to elaborate on that thought, the TARDIS (or Bad Wolf, or the Power Rose borrowed from the TARDIS) can obviously change genetics, since she made Jack almost immortal with a word.

If you're curious as to the logic: Humans have a life-span limited to 150 years if we didn't age or get sick. It's a function of replication, we lose a few base pairs from each end of each chromosome with each cell division. After 150 years, our DNA is no longer stable enough or complete enough to support life.

If the TARDIS's power can do that, who's to say what it did (or what the TARDIS herself did) to Rose when she held it's power? I've been hoping for some kind of change along these lines since it happened.

Anyway, that's enough verbal diarhea from me.
Should it go AU? I hope it doesn't, or at least not until after TPotW. But, all of this is just my opinion for what it's worth... probably not much. :)

Re: Warning: Opinion-Mongering Ahead

[sisterofkarn.livejournal.com]

Actually, I'd just like to add that I'd love to see an AU where 9 and Rose have Babies, just as a different series.

And, regardless of what you decide, I'm sure it will be great and I'll love it. :)

[azriona.livejournal.com]

I am of two minds, hence my two votes.

Nine was wrong and Rose gets pregnant but PotW still happens.

So Nine is wrong - or has his DNA manipulated somehow without knowing it - and Rose gets pregnant, but PotW still happens when Rose is pregnant - and neither of them know it until later, and she raises the baby with Ten.

OR

Series continues with Ten but no time babiez.

Because I really like the series, the way it's going. I want to keep seeing it go in this vein, and that means it can't go AU, and we can't have time babiez. As much as it sucks for Nine - and I'm sure it'll suck for Ten, too - I'd sort of hate to see it derail just for the sake of the thousands of us clamoring for time babiez.

Especially when Alt!Nine is going to have time babiez, and Ten has more time babiez than he can count, and not just from you.

Anyway, my two cents.

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

I'm of like eight minds at the moment. This series was only ever supposed to give birth to angst and hurt/comfort, maybe a spare bit of smut. I dunno what I'm gonna do.

[bluevolvic.livejournal.com]

So many choices, you really are spoling us :P. I want Timebabies, but I can't decide on the storyline, hows that for an answer? lol! :D

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

Sounds a little bit like my brain, although I'm still not convinced the time babies are a good idea, even if I want them and Nine wants them, and pretty much everyone else does, too. *sighs*

[petitechatte77.livejournal.com]

Great storyline, my only request is please no Ten. There are so many Ten stories already and I'm still in denial over the loss of Nine. But of course, majority wins, not to mention it's your story! :)

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

I did start writing this to give Nine his due a bit. I mean there's only so much I can do with alt!Nine and he's great, but regular Nine deserves more than he ever got. I still haven't decided. Nothing is set in stone yet.

[catyuy.livejournal.com]

How about Rose is altered after Boomtown, since I read your most recent post.
She gets pregnant with 9's child.
POTWs happens, with 9 much more upset due to the threat to his mate and unborn child.
When Rose becomes Bad Wolf the Timetot is put in a state of temporal grace and thus unaffected by the energy, or so we think, then returned after the kiss/power exchange.
Rose goes into labor right after 9's regeneration into 10.
There could be some Votex displacement from the TARDIS that postpones 10's regenerative coma till the Timetot is born.
Thus why he is out for most of the Christmas Invasion.
How's that for an emotional traumatizing time for Rose and the Doctor.
The only question is, in your universe did 9 ever hint or warn Rose about regeneration?

[amberfocus.livejournal.com]

No, Nine has never warned Rose about regeneration. That is something from canon that I'm keeping if I go Ten, because it was very painful for her. And that means angst. And I likes my angsties. I'll let that idea rattle around in my brain for a few days. It's got potential. *smiles*